Old School Hip Hop Tapes

Old school hip hop tapes 1978 to 1983 a true story and the list of the best entertainers of their time written by Troy L. Smith of Harlem, NYC.

Whats up to my lovely brothers and sisters, who hold a common interest in old school hip hop tapes as I. In my quest on a never ending journey for these tapes I've found great happiness when I come a cross some hellified tapes, that be rockin like a mother. I also found tapes that sounded terrible as far as quality, some have had a lot of hissing sounds, some have been recorded many times. I have tapes that are pieces from other parties, some sound too fast, sometimes there is gaps, I even had a couple tapes that were made from a radio sitting in front of a speaker.

Then theres those beautiful clear tapes. Thank the lord for them. I remember being a young brother of 11 maybe 12 getting a tape from a friend going home and not coming outside for hours because I was caught up in a tape . I would be in my room playing it over and over trying to imagine how the place look, where the party was at, trying to picture what these guys look like and just loving the lyrics and the sounds from the MC and DJ even after knowing the tape by heart I still listened to it over and over, and I would hear some dope shit like, Kool Moe Dee battling Busy Bee and just ripping his ass apart. Caz having prepared rhymes for hecklers in the crowd were he blatantly disses the hell out of them. The Treachrous Three telling Mellie Mel and the furious five they can't get down and asking them openly for a battle. Theodore and Flash cuttin the hell out of records and so many dope routines by the likes of the Cold Crush brothers, Crash Crew, Fantastic Five, Treachrous Three, Furious Five, Master Don and the Death Committee , L-Brothers, Zulu Nation, Funk Machine and Funky Four to my ears those were the best crews. Much props to Doug E. Fresh, Busy Bee, Johnny Wa and Rayvon. The Fearless Four sounded better individually then when they did routines, although they killed it when they did album recordings, Spoonie Gee sounds better on his albums, then at live parties freestyling. I would have to say the same thing for Kurtis Blow. I have not heard a tape with Johnny Wa and Rayvon together yet. I have to give some props to the Force MCs but some times I just don't get that feeling that they were real raw hip hoppers but some of the baddest R&B singers.

I once had a Zulu Nation tape and I think Sundance was the MC but Jazzy J was the DJ and Sundance was rocking off of the record Apache. I would very much like to find that tape again . The lyrics started like this "Jazzy J you know your number one," Then the record would come on and then when Sundance say his next lyric the record would stop and he would say "Every other DJ is your son" he would do this at least three times then he would finish by saying "We rock", off an echo chamber and Apache would play on. To me the best MCs of there respected crews were Caz and JDL of the CC4 , Dieda Rock, Kevin Kev and Whipper Whip of the Fantastic, Reggie Reg and B-stro of the Crash Crew, Melle Mel of the Furious Five, Gangster Gee of Master Don and the Death Committee, Kool Moe Dee of the Treacherous Three, Mr. Freeze of the Jazzy Five and DLB, Mike C and Tito were good of the Fearless Four and Rodney Cee of the Funky Four. Much props once again, to Donald Dee and Pow Wow and Globe. Kool Moe Dee was the reason I never liked or gave myself the chance to like LL cool J, cause to me Moe Dee was the man at that time. But today I would have to say that Caz is the man. I probably like them both the same but I have much more tapes of the CC4 then the Treach. I know Melle Mel is a bad brother but to me he never said enough on those tapes and his crew use to piss me off because they never really did a show, you know routines. I asked Caz one day who was the best between him, Moe Dee and Mel and of course he said him, and get this he said that they knew he was the best, I know that battle would of been the bomb back in the days.

I think I would have set it up like this, Dot-a Rock, D.L.B., Rayvon, Tito, Mighty Mike Cee, J.D.L., Busy Bee, Rahiem, Whipper Whip, Master Rob, Gangster Gee, Rodney Cee, Doug E. Fresh, Mr. Freeze, Donald Dee, Kurtis Blow, Kid West, G-Man, Spoonie Gee, Pow Wow, Globe, Kid Creole, Cowboy and Johnny Wa, Reggie Reg and Barry B-stro would of battled each other who ever would of won then would of step in to the battle of their life against Mel, Moe and Caz. At the end of the battle only one can be left standing of every last M.C. Who would win only GOD knows.

I think at that time if advertised properly it could of sold out Yankee stadium. As far as DJs Theodore, Flash, DJ AJ, Charlie Chase, Africa Islam, Breakout, Master Don, O.C., Crazy Eddie, Whiz Kid, Jazzy J and Bambaataa were the best by far. And Girl MCs Pebbly Poo, Sha-rock and Lisa Lee. It is hard to debate which one was the best cause they were all very good. I hope you find great joy in these tapes as I did cause this is some of the greatest music in the world. "Family", I need some help, I am interested in all tapes of this time but right now I hope you can help me with some special tapes such as: Fantastic five first anniversary, Boat ride with CC4 and Treach3 going, that's going to Bear mountain, full Crash crew tapes, Notorious2, Funk machine, L-Brothers, Salt and Pepper M.C.s (Dot-a-Rock, Whipper Whip that is), Magnificent 7, Funky 4 with Rahiem, Casanova Fly. The number of tapes I have right now is 103 but the number is always going up because I am always putting in work trying to get new tapes, I may even have tapes sitting in the house waiting to be assessed. So know that it is always on. Also if you have any leads for me to reach people with tapes and the lead turns into something good you will be blessed back. To my people, I am from the Grant projects in Harlem. Peace and blessings to you and your family. - Troy Smith





Tape List and Comments:

1 - Fantastic Five, Caz, Busy Bee, Whiz Kid, Treacherous Three, SpoonieGee@T-connection 1981 60min. (note: Dotta rock does a rhyme about things that are "like". Dotta Rock opens to headhunters and then passes off to the treach three and then they pass off to Spoonie Gee.)

2 - Treacherous Three side a Club Negrils 82 -Bambaataa, Jazzy J, Cosmic force, soul sonic force at the T-Connection 80 (note: Treach 3 doing routines with two mics Sunshine rocking with out a mic.) 90min.

3 - Crash Crew, Soul Sonic Force Cosmic Force Whiz Kid T-Connection 1980 90min. (Crash Crew open up doing routines off 8th wonder and bounce rock skate. Then they do their famous record. Pow wow does a nursery Rhyme.)

4 - Fantastic five, Cold Crush 4, Soul Sonic Force, Bam, Whiz Kid T. Connection 1981 60min. (Note: Bam is playing a plate with Flash on the beat box, Dotta-Rock saying a rhyme about an Amazon, Caz, JDL, K Gee testing the mics to some dope cuts).

5 - Busy bee, Kevin Kev, Dotta Rock, Grand Master Caz, DJ A.J. Theodore, Audubon 1981 60min. (The tape start with Waterbed Kev rocking off of catch a groove and changing words to songs like it's the joint and Sugar Hill 8th Wonder on the other side Kev, Busy Bee and Caz rock the house together.)

6 - Treacherous three 2nd Anniversaries, Cold Crush 4 Harlem World 1982 90min. (Note: Treach Three ask the Furious Five for a battle, Caz disses a heckler in the crowd with a rhyme just for hecklers, Caz also does a rhyme about getting caught in the bed with a girl name Yvette.)

7 - Cold crush four, Imperial Brothers Hoe ave. boys' club - 1981 60min. (Note: J.D.L. said a girl in the crowd is sewing her draws because she said "so" to Caz announcement.)

8 - Cold Crush 4, Disco Enforcers - T-Connection - 1979 60min. (note: JDL opens up to sequence record. Side B opens to 8th wonder with the crew doing a routine and the crew is rocking to freedom. Caz does a rhyme about being somebody's father Caz also rhymes to another one bites the dust saying he caught J.D.L. and K.G. smoking dust.

9 - Rappers convention - Fantastic Five, Crash Crew, Force MCs, Cold Crush 4, LA Sunshine - Harlem World 82 90min. (Crash crew doing a lot of talking before they start rocking especially about the mic Dougie Fresh was using. They do high powered rap and there second album live and they rock them. Force m.c.s rock the beatbox, Stevie Dee's uncle Jessie opens for the force by clowning around. Cold Crush starts with Caz doing a routine from a Richard Pryor album, by stating "the white man own the place he just frontin your black ass off. And J.D.L. is no longer with his ex girl Yvonne Baker. It's DJ A.J. and his sister Pam's birthday.).

10 - Ecstacy Garage All Stars - Caz, JDL, Whippier whip, K-Gee, Ruby Dee, Theodore, Soul Sonic Force, Nice and Nasty Four - Ecstasy garage disco 1980 90min. (JDL is rhyming off of 8th wonder and there all freestyle.)

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - To all those Busy Bee, Kool Moe Dee battle fans that believe there was more then one battle between the two, you were right. It was two, the first was the legendary battle, which was Christmas Eve, and Moe dee blazed the show. Also from word of mouth it was said that Busy Bee felt he was set up so it was done again but this time on New Years Eve night. Only the Technicians for that night could not get the tape deck to work at the right time, so it was never recorded. Lucky for us the show that second night was no were near as good as the first show they did. But now bust this, imagine if Rayvon would have showed up that first night of the battle. Him and Johnny Wa would of gave Moe Dee and L.A. a run for there money. Don't know what I am talking about, then listen to tape number 76 with Johnny WA and Rayvon they killed it. Never heard of them, they are of the Magnificent 7 of Harlem. You say who are they. The members were Ray and Wa as you know, as well as DJ Tastic, DJ Spivey, Shoeshine, DJ Cookie And E-Man. Yes ladies and gentlemen who always wondered who he was, E-man (Who was named by his man Chu Chu from the Bx.) was mostly just a respected homeboy and MC who happened to be kool with them and help put the equipment together, as well as m.c., break dance and tag graffiti. Grand Master Caz told me, him and JDL often battled Ray and Wa, and said they were some talented brothers.

11 - Funk Machine - Caz, Donald Dee, Kid Vicious, Pow Wow, MC Globe, Afrika Islam, Fantastic Five at 118 Park 60min. (Note: the funk machine is doing work especially Caz, the side with fantastic is distorted but gets better. I don't know the date.)

12 - Charlie Chase, Furious Five at the Forrest projects 1980- Mercedes ladies inner city disco 1980 60min. (note: Mellie Mel opening with a echo chamber to good times.)

13 - Busy Bee + Kool DJ A.J., Fantastic five, Cold Crush Four- T-Connection 1982 60min. (Busy Bee opens up to freedom and giving out shout outs to high schools, him Caz and JDL rocking hut and on. B-side Caz rocking to big beat.

14 - Cold Crush Four Battle the Fantastic Five - Harlem World 1981 60min. (note: from the very beginning when Caz comes on with a bullhorn tells the fantastic to come out with there hands up to the very end when they are judge by the audience.)

15 - Crash Crew, Cold Crush 4, Mean machine, Spoonie Gee. Harlem World and Connecticut 60min. (note: This is the Whole show of the Crash Crew they are doing routines and all of their popular records at that time. Caz screams on a heckler in the crowd and says his man Roy Thomas is in the hospital with the herpes and when he gets out "he will be walking like he has a potato chip in his ass and he don't want to break it". Mean Machine perform there popular song as well as do there routines.)

16 - Fantastic Five, Cold Crush 4, Treach 3 - Harlem World 1982 (Note: A.D.s birthday, and Fantastic doing routines pertaining to Christmas) 60min.

17 - Cold Crush 4, Cadet head Quarters 1983- Cold Crush 4, T-ski Valley- Harlem world 1981 (Note: cc4 do a routine off the record war.)

18 - Fearless Four, Cold Crush Four - Harlem World 1982 60min. (Note: caz-cracking jokes about fags, coke and herpes. Paso is singing on one of the routines.)

19 - Cold Crush 4 - Ecstasy garage 1980 (note: Caz and J.D.L. start to "another one bites the dust" later Caz does a rhyme about being someone's father as well as other rhymes. J.D.L. does one about a hotel room and K.G. does a short one about being a private eye. A.D. shows up later and they do a short set of routines. After there show Greg Ski comes on to DJ and of course Caz is snapping on someone's uncle Mary. 90min.

20 - Battle- Kool Moe Dee, Busy Bee, Johnny Wa Wa, Force MCs Cold Crush Four 60min. Harlem World 1981 (note: this is the classic battle from beginning to almost the end. All of Moe Dee's part is there.)

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - There should be a special award or recognition for the Cold Crush for being the funniest, versatile, health conscious, chiming in brothers in hip hop and just being very original. These are the main reason's why the CC4 were my favorite crew. First with Caz and J.D.L., when the record stopped it was still…SHOWTIME. Know telling what was going to come out of those two mouth's. From CAZ telling a heckler "fuck you and the cab that brought you here" to "when my man Roy Thomas gets out the hospital for the herpes he is going to be walking like he got potato chip in his ass and he don't want to break it." And J.D.L. saying some girl was sewing her draws as well as his trade mark hut routine. Caz was the first to have two different prepared rhymes for hecklers that had the crowd "saying "oh shit". And when he said "there's one person from queens and a half a person from Staten island." that was classic. With K.G. he was always on the side being like the filler, today Flava Flav and Freaky Tah (God bless him) are some what similar. You can count on K.G. to gas Caz to blaze a heckler in the crowd or he would just be m.c.ing a long with the lead m.c. and he was a funny brother with the courageous cat voice mimic. A.D. was the first to M.C. about dealing with life and society with out drugs and alcohal. Was the first to advertise that it was cool not to use. "give me Reefer, Blow, pipers and I drink milk". All Classics.

21 - Furious Four and Flash - Audubon ballroom 1978 and Jackson projects 78 (Note: this is before Raheim became a part of the crew, also Flash is cutting a lot of records sounds also like he is cutting a record backwards (Space funk).) 60min.

22 - Flash and Furious Five, Jazzy J, JDL, A.D., K-Gee (note: this is the party where the furious five did the original recording for Bam's plate. Bx. River) 60min.

23 - Funky 4+1, Raheim, Cowboy, Ruby Dee, Bambaataa, Ikey cee and Lil Dave -T-Connection 1980 90min. (Note: supposedly shootout at the party. Rodney Cee does a rhyme about bonnie and clyde chillin in his ride he also does a rhyme about his birthday. By the way its Jazzy Jeff birthday.)

24 - DJ Breakout, DJ Barren, Funky4+1, D.J. Whiz Kid, Harmonizing 4- at the T-Connection 1980 60min.

25 - Grand master Flash Furious Five, DJ Sinbad, Kool Kyle, M.C. Jimmy Dee- T-Connection 1979 (note: starts off with Mellie Mel rocking off of catch a groove and then he rocks off of the claps jam.) 90min.

26 - Cold Crush 4, Kurtis Blow - DJ Davey Dee -Skate palace New Years Eve 1983 (note: Kurtis Blow Does his song daydreaming along with his routines. All the Cold Crush is there and there all on point doing there famous routines A.D. for moment speaks about him not using drugs.) 90min.

27 - Cold crush 4, Force MCs, Busy Bee - Printing H.S.-Cold Crush 4, Zulu Nation-T-Connection 1982 (Note: Busy Bee is only on for a short time, Jazzy 5 do there thing with some good routines and play the beat box for a minute. The force MCs start out singing a song and then they do there thing with routines off F-troop, Gilligans Island, Brady bunch the Adams family and I love to teach the world to sing also rock the beat box. The Cold crush don't complete there session cause it then goes into another party with the Cold Crush but now there at the T-Connection and J.D.L. is rockin his hut and Jazzy J is cutting. 90min.

28 - Fantastic five, Cold Crush 4 - Savoy, no date (Dotta Rock does his rhyme about having a child and why you shouldn't be gay, Caz cracking jokes, the four do a routine off let it whip.) 60min.

29 - Cold Crush4, DJ Jazzy Jay- Connecticut Roller skating rink 1982 (Note: Cold Crush do there routines on the other side Jazzy J is mixing records before the Crush come on.) 60min.

30 - 6th Zulu Nation Anniversary part 2-Bambaataa, Jazzy Jay, Jazzy five MCs, Cold Crush 4, Lil Ikey C (Note: Master Dee sounds good singing with the group, J.D.L does a rhyme naming Yvonne Baker as his girl, A.D. comes late. Some trouble breaks out Ikey Cee has to get on the mic to reprimand the crowd through the echo chamber.) 60min. T-Connection 1981

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - Like I said earlier it is real hard for me to tell which female MC is the best between Lisa Lee Pebbley Poo and Sha rock. But right now we will have to exclude Sha rock cause if you listen to Pebbles on tape32 she is on fire the sound of her voice is like something from Motown back in the days and then there is Lisa Lee on tape77 I have found a new respect for Mrs. Lee, she killed it. Man she sounded like she was the leader of the crew on that one. I know Sha rock is like a legend for female m.c.s but I don't have anything yet of her standing out totally in front like the others.

31 - Grand Master Caz birth party at the new Fever. 1992 (note: L.A. Sunshine standing in for J.D.L. Mellie Mel, Big Daddy Kane, Whipper Whip, Kevin kev, Starsky D.J.ing) 90min.

32 - Busy Bee, Master Don and the death committee, and the cold crush brothers, as well as L.A. Sunshine. Harlem World 1982 90min. (Busy Bee rocking and he didn't know till the last minute and Master Don and the crew tear it up.)

33 - Treacherous 3 in Bermuda 1984 side A D.J. Hollywood at Harlem world 1982 side B (Note: The Treach do there records Body Rock, At the Party, Whip it, We'll turn you on, Action, Get up, Feel the Heartbeat and a Jackson 5 routine then they freestyle off of the record sucker M.C. the breakers in attendance are Fastbreak and Mr. Wiggles. Side B Hollywood starts mixing and rocking to numbers and super freak he does "well" routine and his chorus in the back ground of m.c. Artie Art and Disco Romeo and sounds like there might be others. This is a Andre Harrell production - 90min.

34 - JDL, Almighty KG, Ruby Dee, Hi-C, Theodore, D.J. Magic Mike, Quinny Queen. Location unknown 60min.

35 - Cold Crush4, Whiz Kid, Touch of class disco, Debbie Dee, Wanda Dee, Lil Dave. Stardust Ballroom 90min. (note: Toney Tone opens up for the Crush By asking security to move the crowd back. Whiz Kid on the beat box)

36 - Theodore, Bambaataa, Rocksteady-danceateria 120min.

37 - Flash and the furious5, Kool Kyle, D.j. Sinbad T- Connection 1979 (note: Raheim starts off rocking to Johnny the fox. Cowboy comes behind and is rocking off of the bells, later FLASH is cutting "listen to the base man" and the crowd is loving it also he gets on the beat box and the do their routine and its Kool Kyle's birthday and he is singing off of got to be real and Mel is saying some dope rhymes to the record groove to get down. This is a really good party they all rock.) 60min.

38 - Cosmic Force, Soulsonic Force, Jazzy Jay, at Amityville Long Island side A (note: Bam rocks the beat box.) Pow wow, Raheim, Lisa Lee, Ice Ice, Sundance, Africa Islam, Jazzy Jay etc. side B outside jam (note: Pow Wow makes a shout out to crazy phil Lisa Lee does her thing like I never heard before. They all rock the echo chamber.) 60min.

39 - Flash and the Furious5, 1980 location unknown (note: this the only routine I ever heard on there tapes other then them doing there records and it's the "till the break of dawn" routine.) 60min.

40 - Harlem World M.C. throw down 1982-T-Ski Valley (note: he not only does his record catch the beat, he also does other routines that are pretty good.) also Spoonie Gee, Busy Bee, Force M.C., Fantastic Five, Cold Crush four. (Note: the quality of the sound is not the best, but with the EQ. It sounds fine.)

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - Do you remember?
Alps hotel……………..Boston road and long fellow ave.
Arthur's Round Table….Bronx river. Notorious After hour spot.
Basement……………….Garacin ave. First spot were Flash, Mean Gene and cowboy were rocking together.
Bronx river center……...1619 East 174th st. Bronx river ave. Zulu home.
Black door…………….163rd st. Freeman ave. In 1981 became the Dixie Flash, Mellie Mel and Cowboys home.
Boys club……………...173rd st. hoe ave. Easy A.D. home
Burger King- disco…….163rd st. Prospect ave. as crazy as it sounds Flash did party's there. They would unscrew the tables and chairs at 7:30 p.m. it was time to party.
Burger King…………….176th st. Webster ave. same thing here also.
Cadet HQ……………...170th st. Jerome ave. the deegan?
Cedar park…………….. Burnside. home of Kool Herc and were Theodore first showed his invention "scratching".
Christ the King……….…170th st. Grand concourse
Club 371………………...?
Co-op city com. Center…Co-op City.
Disco Fever…………….167th st. Jerome ave. Flash and the Furious 5
Disco Fever new………..East Tremont and Webster Ave.
Echo park……………….Burnside Ave.
Ecstasy Garage…………1508 Macomb's rd. 170th st. home of the Cold Crush brothers.
Emma's Place…………..around the corner from the T-Connection
Empire roller rink………Empire blvd. And Bedford Ave.
Executive Playhouse……?
Forrest projects…………166th st. Forrest ave.
Hevalo………………...176th st. Burnside
Inner city disco………….169th st. prospect L. Brothers home
I.S. 167………………….East Tremont West Farms
Jackson pro………………158th Cortland ave. house D.J. Jazzy Black
j.h.s.123…………………Watson ave. home of Disco King Mario and the Chuck city crew, ex Black Spades did security.
j.h.s.147…………………Webster ave. and Claremont
j.h.s.148…………………169 3rd. ave.
Kips Bay boys club……..Between Pugsley ave. and Randle ave.
Maxwell Park……………St.Pauls and 3rd ave.
Mitchell Gym……………138th st. Alexander ave.
Monroe H.S………………up the hill from bx. river another home of Zulu.
Morris H.S………………Boston Rd. 166th st.
P.A.L……………………183rd st. Webster ave.
Prospect theater…………163rd st.. Between prospect ave. and no longer there.
18 park…………………..behind the Patterson projects. Casanova turf.
23 park………………….?
104 park ………………...? Dr. Jeckel and Mr. Hyde home
116 park…………………175th st. Walton ave.
118 park…………………180th st. Arthur ave. and Belmont ave.
Recovery Room…………149th st. Grand Concourse. After hour spot.
Roller dam……………….?
Savoy manor…………….120 east 149th st. between Walton ave. and the grand concourse
Skate Fever………………176th st. Jerome ave. off mount eden
Skate palace……………...930 soundview ave.
South Bx. H.S……………Stanns ave.
Sparkle…………………...?
Star dust ballroom……….. Boston Post Rd.
Stadium hotel…………….cedric ave.
T-connection…………….. 3510 White plains Rd.
Twilight Zone…………….?
The Valley………………..Rock Park baychester
White Castle………………Soundview, Bruckner expressway after the Bronx river party, go eat and hangout.

Needs more names and address open for suggestions and corrections. Must cater to oldschoolhiphop 77 to 83

41 - Cold Crush Four, Treacherous Three -Hoe ave. Boys club 1982 (note: D.L.B. stands in for Kool Moe Dee and Caz does a new rhyme and Tony Tone's mother is there as well as associates of the movie Wild style.) - 60min

42 - Zulu nation bx. river Red Alert, Pow wow, Bug out, Lisa Lee (note: Jazzy Jay is on the beat box and the jazzy five is rocking. Side B the DJ is just cutting records.) - 90min

43 - Side A the Cold Crush 4 and Busy Bee Harlem World 1981 (note: Caz, JDL and Busy Bee rocking Hut together. Caz also says "to all the virgins in the house, thanks for nothing".)

Side B Flash and Kurtis Blow 1979 unknown location, on that same side Zulu nation Long Island with Mr. Big, Hutch Hutch, and Pow wow and he is doing a rhyme about buffalo bill -date unknown. - 60min

44 - Flash and the Furious Five T-Connection 1980 (note: Cowboy opens up to Got to be real and he is using an echo chamber.) side B Force M.C. Broadway international 1983 (note: Bee Fats is cutting after the force finishes.) - 90min

45 - Flash and the Furious (note: Five Mellie Mel opening up for the crew with cowboy following off of breaking bells and playing other records such as head hunters, Johnny the fox and rocket in the pocket.) Fantastic five. 1980 T-connection. - 60min

46 - Boat ride coming from Bear Mountain. Cold Crush four, Treacherous Three (note: this party they are coming back from bear mountain and Caz says they are getting there $5.50 worth, Caz and JDL rocking Hut. Also I am looking for the second tape that has everybody going to bear mountain and it has Caz doing his second diss of a heckler in the crowd and L.A. Sunshine is apologizing for what he said at the end of the Moe Dee battle with Busy Bee) - 90min

47 - Side A the Incredible 3. M.C.s Tech Ski, Destiny, Chucky Chuck and D.J. Lil Chase. (Note: no location or date and it appear to be three different shows by them.) Side B Funky Four + 1(note: KK Rockwell starts by saying "he likes to do his thing" off the record got to be real and the other m.c.s one by one say the same thing one by one then they go in to routines. There is no date or location safe to assume 79.)

48 - Side A Treacherous three at? (Note: This is a nice clear tape and the party is cool.) Side B Kool Moe Dee in concert at Greenville South Carolina 1987 (note: Moe dee is doing his records wild wild west, how you like me now etc, also speaks about the feud between him and LL cool J at the Apollo.) - 90min

49 - Cold Crush 4, Funky 4+1 Halloween T-connection 1981 (note: Caz and JDL are doing there notorious two routine as well as there others with A.D. and K.G. Caz also says its not as pack as the night before when they were at south Bx. High school and the funky four are doing a lot of shout outs to the fantastic and Cold Crush as well as Busy Bee and then they do a few routines and some nice free style.)-60min

50 - Dougie Fresh and Kid West, and others at different parties. And a home recording. Busy Bee and Rock steady in Tokyo 1983 and 198? -90min

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - Do you remember?
Amphitheater…………FDR drive East Houston Green park. Famous last setting for the wild style movie.
Audubon……………...166th st. Broadway were Malcolm X was assassinated.
Bath house Kennedy….135th st. 5th ave.
B.&.B………………...2234 east 122nd st. 3rd. ave.
Broadway Inter……….146th st. Broadway
Bunch of Grapes………125th st. 5th after hour spot
C+C disco……………..over Lenox Lounge on 125th st. Lenox ave.
Celebrity Club………...125th st. 5th ave.
Central Park East………110th st. 5th ave. Magnificent 7 turf.
Chama Day Care………147th st. 7th and 8th ave. Master Don turf Charles Gallery………..125th st. between St. Nicholas and 8th ave.
Chuck center…………..between 115th st. and 116th st. and 2nd ave.
Clinton Center…………110th st. Lexington ave. M7 turf.
Claps the………………309 west 125th st
Close Encounters………next door to the Broadway International
Club Fresh…………….108west 43rd st.
Club Negrils…………..181 east 11st. 2nd Ave.
Danceteria…………….21st. between 5th and 6th st.
Earths Edge…………...?
Enterprise……………..?
Foster Center………….2w. 115th st. 5th ave. King Towers (Foster projects)
Fun house……………..26th st. between 10th and 11th ave.
Grant projects…………123rdst. to 125thst. between Broadway Amsterdam ave and Morningside ave.
Harlem world…………116th st. Lenox ave. legendary battle between the Fantastic 5 and the Cold Crush 4 site, as well as Moe Dee, Busy Bee Battle.
Hotel Diplomat……….47th st. Broadway
I.S. 201……………….127th st. Madison ave.
Latin Quarters…………48th st. between Broadway and 7th ave.
Lincoln Center Sq.……..65th st. west end ave. and Amsterdam ave.
Lincoln West com…….2110 Madison ave. 133rd st.
Mr. Souls……………...115th st. 5th ave.
ManhattanVille pro…….126th st. old Broadway to 130th st.. Amsterdam ave.
Mount Morris park…….123rd st. Madison ave.
Nat Holman Gym……...City College 138th st. Convent Ave.
P.A.L………………….123rd st 8th and 7th ave.
Peppermint lounge…….15th st. 5th ave. moved from 45th st. Broadway
Ponderosa…………….145th st.8th ave.
Printing High School…50th st. 9th ave.
Randy's Place…………..309 west 125th st. 8th ave. and st.Nicholas.
Renaissance……………137th st.7th ave.
Roof Top………………155th st. 8th Ave.
Roxys………………….18th st. 10th 11th ave.
Shomberg center………110th st. 5th Ave. M7 turf
Smalls Paradise………..135th st. 7th Ave.
Terrace Ballroom………26 East 125th st. bet. Mad and 5th Ave.
This Bitter Earth……….125th st. 5th ave. after hour spot
3333 Broadway…………135th st. Broadway
Union Sq………………..14th st Union Sq.
Wetlands………………..Hudson st. near canal st.

51 - Cold Crush4, Fantastic 5, Boogie boys T-Connection 1980 - 90min

52 - Funky Four T-Connection they are using an echo chamber. Master don death committee at Patterson N.J. (note: they sing a routine from a Gladys Knight song. And do their famous song funk box. 90min

53 - Black History month - Cold Crush D.ST Infinity rappers, Debbie Dee, Jazzy 5 Jazzy Jay, Magical five, Busy Bee Location and Date unknown 90min. (note: this tape Caz dedicates the next routine to the most supt. Up niggers that charge $7 and don't do a show, D.ST I believe is using a synthesizer, the jazzy five music went out cause somebody step on the cord and their was a fight.)

54 - Force MCs BATTLE Cold Crush 4 Patterson NJ. 60min. (note: This tape was cleaned up by my man Dagod9 only flaw it's a bit slow in the very beginning but after that its dynamite. The force put on an excellent show but the Cold Crush, from the words of Caz, never went there to battle, in fact the Force wasn't there when the Cold Crush was on stage, the Force was coming in when the Cold Crush was leaving. And if you listen close the Cold Crush never makes reference to the Force. But it still was a good show.)

55 - Dougie Fresh Battles Master Don and the death committee on side A, Side B Dougie Fresh and the get fresh crew as well as the Tranquilizing three 60min. (note: Dougies human beat box battles Barry Bee's turntables. Also Barry Bee battles DJ Smalls. Master Don cuts with sneakers on his hands. And Master Dons M.C.s battle Doug saying he wears Corduroys in the summer but the tape doesn't have Doug battling them back.)

56 - L-Brothers BATTLE Herculoids 1978 Side A, Side B L-brothers and the Zulu Nation T-connection 1979 90min. (note: Side A sounds pretty scratchy needs work. Side B is the bomb, Theodore cuts super sperm better then any body in this world.)

57 - Live Convention- L-Brothers, Treach 3, Busy Bee, Mellie Mel, Flash, Theodore, E-man, Smiley. (Note: This is an amazing tape because this is were the 81, 82 convention albums were made from. its not the best quality tape, in fact I had to fill in some parts from the albums because it sounded so bad from hissing, but you can tell very easily that those albums were taken from this tape, and its really from 1980 and they are rocking at the celebrity club and it's Smiley's birthday!) 90min

58 - Zulu Nation: Hutch Hutch, Mr. Big, Pow Wow, Sundance, Africa Islam. Bronx river center 1979 90min. (Note: One of the many jams they rock is "toys in the attic".)

59 - Zulu Nation: DJ Jazzy Jay, DJ Robbie Rob, M.C. Globe, Lil Ikey C, Pow wow, Mr. Biggs. T-Connection 1980 60min. (Note: second record Bam cuts is Hut and later on "1,2,3,4 hit" it as well as "that's the joint" and bustin loose and the telephone jam, in that order.)

60 - Zulu Nation: Charlie Rock, Bam, Red Alert, Whiz kid, Bill Blast, Pow wow, M.C. Globe. T-Connection 1980 60min. (note: a little static, they rock a lot of songs such as love and effect ion, Numbers, "Can I shine yawl shoes", Funky penguin, big beat and others.)

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - lets talk about Grand Master Flowers. It is said that there is a time when Mr. Flowers was such a bad meaning good, D.J.ing brother that he had once opened up for James Brown at Yankees Stadium. The history goes that Mr. Flowers use to go up to the Bronx from Brooklyn to hear Kool Herc play. They were some what similar in the fact that they had very strong, powerful systems and they built there own speakers. Now Flowers on his visits to the Bx. to check the other D.J.s, notice Flash and his greatness. He quickly named Flash Grand Master. That's right Flowers did that. Flowers felt That Flash took D.J.ing to a whole new level. In 1974 Flowers popularity grew so much that he played at the most popular clubs N.Y.C. he was even mentioned in the commercials that WBLS did for Studio 54. By 1975 Mr. Flowers formed his crew which was called " THE GMF CREW" which consist of D.J. Blue, Aron and Barren. From 76 to 79 he was very strong and popular. But by 1980 ended up succumbing to drugs. In 1992 he died because of drugs. Peace and blessings to you and your family Grand Master Flowers. Check his sound and style at tapes 97 and 98.

61 - Grand master Flash mix (note: Flash cutting such records as Children growing, Toys in the attic, the honey drippers, Corzon, Dance to the drummers beat etc.)

62 - Grand master Caz Break beats - (note: Caz cutting such records as jimmy castors "its just begun", Rock creek park, the Mexican, Frisco disco, Keep your distance, Mary Mary etc.) 90min.

63 - DJ Hollywood, Eddie Cheba, Starsky, DJ Divine, Flash, Mellie Mel and Kurtis Blow-Jamaica Queens Armory 1979 (note: this is a good party and a fine tape of sound, it was well preserved. And some of the m.c.s make reference to the sugar hill gang in a negative way, also Flash rocks the beat box.) 90min.

64 - Side A - Treacherous three and T La Rock at Hempstead L.I. 1984 (note: This side of the tape the Treach are truly rocking and T La Rock does his cut "It's yours" the quality is real good no hissing what so ever only problem it's only coming out of one speaker so I am working on trying to get it to come out of the other side.) Side B- Treacherous Three 1st. Anniversary, DJ Starsky, Spoonie Gee and Busy Bee 1981 Harlem world (note: the party is dope but the quality gets kind of bad when the tape gets to the treach starting there show. Busy bee sounds real good at the end rocking off heartbeat but he goes off too soon, but I enjoyed the show.) 90min.

65 - Fantastic Five T- Connection 1980 (note: This sounds like two different party's the first they make reference to it being Cool Herc and Bambaataa's birthday and the other makes reference to Mr. Magic in the house.) 60min.

66 - Dotta Rock's birthday party, the second half. 1980 T-Connection (note: this is the second half of the party, I am looking for the first half. Also fantastic announces they were going to battle the Crash crew the next night.) Side b, Fearless four at the park of the Grant projects 1986 (note: It is an outside jam and UTFO is suppose to be in the crowd and Crazy Eddie is cutting the hell out of two of Spoonie G records. Also fearless is with out DLB and they are still having a good time rocking.) 90mins.

67 - {note: radio to speaker} Fantastic five first anniversary at Harlem world 1981 (note: this is a radio facing the speaker tape and this is one of there better shows only problem like always it seems they have mic problems, this is a dam good show they put on there is a lot of crowd participation. any body got the straight to tape show please hit me with it. Also the Harlem world crew rocks in between Some hissing but better then I thought) 90min.

68 - {note: radio to speaker} Busy Bee, Fearless four, Devastating 3, Sweet G. Queens (note: Darrell C is cutting for Busy Bee and Busy is a funny brother before he starts rocking talking about he lives across from abandon buildings in the Bronx also its his birthday. anybody got the straight to tape show.) 90min.

69 - {note: radio to speaker} Mean Gene, Theodore 3rd ave. Ballroom 1977 (note: although this is a radio to speaker tape you would never know until the m.c. comes on. Theodore and his brother are cutting a lot of good records.) 90min.

70 - Dr.Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde unknown location possibly 1979 side A Flash supposedly The Disco Fever 1984 side B (note: both sides sound kind of scratchy and hissing, the Jeckyl side which they open up to toys in the attic and Ronnie green is the D.J. and Flash starts with his Jam "it was a party night".)

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - What up family. Lets for a minute think about the singer in each group and soloist and of them all who was the best.

Furious 5 - Rahiem it is said, was some what the first to start singing when he was running with the Funky 4. It was also said that he was boss how good he sounded and that's why to this day people fein for funky 4 tapes when Rahiem was down. Now when he got down with Mel and Flash you never really heard him sing unless it was that routine "Flash is on the beat box" and the brother sounds real good. (Note: I was told from man Rams that Rahiem and the Funky 4 who were originally Keith Keith, K.K. Rockwell Sha rock and Rahiem one of the first major groups in the very beginning, and one of the ways they made there mark as the elite was through the voice of Rahiem. In one of there many routines they did one from the Crazy Eddie commercial in the mid 70s and it was like a dedication to Breakout their D.J. and the crew. Some of you historians remember how that melody went so just imagine Rahiem doing lead, doo wop style. From what I heard it was truly blazin. Now I don't have tape the first of the Funky with Rahiem, so If you have or know of please put me on.)

Master Don and the Death Committee - Gangster Gee does a routine slash song to the melody of one of Gladys Knight's song. Now me my self personally I did not care for this song/routine but I give him props for doing something different for his crew and I am sure that others dug it cause he sounds very professional about it.

Fearless 4 - Peso does a routine slash song off of a Stevie Wonder song and he sounds chill, to be honest with you he surprised me.

Cold Crush 4 - Grand Master Caz does his routine slash song off the melody "ain't no stopping us now" he also sounds chill and also surprising because I did not hear him sing until long after I heard those songs the Cold Crush were singing collectively and I am not going to front, yall know by now I dig the hell out of the CC4 but them brothers had a hard time convincing me that they could sing. So when Caz starts to sing he does his thing.

Magnificent 5 - Rayvon is a bad brother that's all I can really say you are going to have to listen to tape 76 for yourself. He sounds similar to Hollywood and at the same token its all Rayvon's style. I really think this brother missed his calling he and Johnny Wa sound great together. But Rayvon is the show. I strongly suggest you listen to tape 76.

Cosmic Force - Lisa Lee like I said sounded like the leader of the crew. That routine was very original.

Force MCs - When it comes to singing there is nothing needed to be said, they went on to be come legendary. Thank the Lord for the Force they are some talented brothers.

Kurtis Blow - Much props to him, he killed it with that "Day dreaming". Chicks was buggin out when they heard it. And I dug it so I know other fellas dug it. My man Vic said when he came here from P.R. during that time, he did not know any English, but he learned the words to that song before anything else, that's how slamin that jam was, and I also felt that was a very underrated accomplishment by Kurtis Blow.

Jazzy 5 - Master Dee I think could have went on and became a singer and I am going to have to ask around to find out what became of him and his singing.

Kool Kyle the Star Child - check tape 37 I really don't know if his main intention was to add singing to his repertoire but he sound good here at his birthday party with the small piece he did.

Mean Machine - Jimmy Mac does a decent rendition of Michael Jackson on tape 92.

71 - Busy Bee 1st. Anniversary, Furious 5, Cold Crush Brothers, P.A.L 1981 (note: Charlie Chase is there cutting for busy bee. flash not there for the Furious five so all they are doing is passing the mic. JDL is not there for the Cold crush which is kool cause Caz holds it down, doing his rhymes plus his song off of "ain't no stopping us" record.) 90min.

72 - Busy Bee, Cold crush 4, Fantastic Five, 81 T-Connection (Note: Busy Bee starts off to Freedom and then says sneak preview as he starts to rock to funky president then JDL starts rocking with busy and Caz gets on with them to Hut, also rocking "On" as well as Mary Mary.) 90min.

73 - Master Don and the Death Committee, Force MCs, Dougie Fresh and the Crash Crew. 83 Savoy manor (note: Master Don and the crew do work in this show. Not only do they do routine off of Gladys knight theme they also do one off of Sly and the family stone as well as others and Don rocks the beat box. Dougie Fresh does his thing, also disses Busy Bee in a rhyme. The Force tries to rock with out there D.J. and the Crash crew time on, unfortunately is finish before there act is done because somebody starts shooting.) 90min.

74 - 1st party Cold Crush 4 and Dougie Fresh at the Shirley arena in Long Island 1984 (note: K.G. starts off rocking to "Billie jean", they are mostly saying new rhymes. Caz does a rhyme about sexing a girl and about being an M.C. GOD. K.G. mic was having a problem. Dougie Fresh opens up to "what people do for money". He battles His D.J. Chill Will Human beat box battles the D.J. He has a lot of fan participation.) 2nd party which is only a quarter of the tape has Dougie Fresh and Crazy Eddie are rocking in Manhattan Ville projects and along came Silver Fox who did his thing 1982. 60min.

75 - Dougie Fresh, Tito of the Fearless four, Kid west, Magic Dee House tape 1984 (note: I would have to say that Kid west rocked this tape then Tito and then Doug. Magic Dee also made his presence felt.) Not a full 60min.

76 - This is three different party's on this one tape that are BLAZING Side A has Flash, Kurtis Blow, Disco Four at Randys Place 1982 (note: It sounds as if there is fight at the end cause the M.C. keeps saying please get off the tables and calm down.) On that same side another party with an unknown location it's the Treacherous 3 along with Spoonie Gee and Moe Dee makes reference to the up coming battle between them and Furious five. It appears obvious that this battle was already negotiated, but as history shows it never happened. I asked L.A. once why did they never battle, he said the furious just kept on ducking them. Side B Johnny Wa, Rayvon, Kool Kyle, Treacherous 3 at P.A.L. in Harlem 1981 (Johnny Wa and Rayvon do a fantastic show it almost sounds like Rayvon is doing D.J. Hollywood's style.) 60min.

77 - Funky 4+1 and the Zulu nation 1981 123 park (note: there is about to be two different fights at this party. Africa Islam and Jazzy Jay are cutting and it is Breakouts birthday. They also rock Flash is on the beat box plate.) 60min.

78 - Funky 4+1 at the T-Connection 1981 (note: the crew is doing work, but Rodney Cee steals the show doing rhymes about his sons a girl name melody and smoking dust and other rhymes.) 60min.

79 - Lisa Lee, Rahiem, Pow wow outside jam (note: Lisa Lee kills it on this party like I never heard her it is worth listening to.) Funky 4+1 1980 T-Connection (note: the crew is rocking off the echo chamber. Keith Keith does a rhyme with the gilligans island melody and Rodney cee does a rhyme about how the crew got together.) 60min.

80 - Whipper whip, Dotta rock, Frankie Rowe, Bill blast, Jerry Dee, Warlock 5 1980 T. Connection (note: they are mostly passing the mic around, the Warlock 5 show is not complete.) Wiz kid, D.J. Lady love, Bambaataa M.C. Globe 1981 T. Connection (note: the D.J.s are just cutting a lot of records half are cool out records and it feels like every body is laid back.) 90min.

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - In an interview with J.D.L. I asked him "What were your thoughts on the Force M.C.s, did yall have beef before and after this so called battle, cause I asked Caz was it a battle he said "no". He said when Crush were leaving they were just coming in. When you listen close I never hear the Cold Crush 4 mention them". Also how was the relationship afterwards?

J.D.L.s response was "The Force MCs were real good, they had tight, good, cute, novelty routines (like a nice breath of fresh air). Their D.J. was on point, and they wanted to be the top m.c. crew (secretly) and so the crowds gave them love, other m.c. crews gave them props, we did too! However like I explained to you before that, all those groups wanted to get at us except the alliance (Treach 3, fearless 4, Dougie Fresh). Why? Because every single M.C. contest we got in we won and all them groups that were in them couldn't do nothing about it! And I mean we never dissed no group that didn't draw blood first, always humble and confident, polite and never no snake moves! So back then a lot of promoters use to hook up fake battles to draw the crowd and make a lot of money, the groups that would of supposedly battled were told in advance it was rigged just come do your regular show get paid, all is good. We had no beef with the Force M.C.s at the time so I don't know what was on there mind. We did mad shows with them, even in the Shaolin (S.I., their turf) and got along alright. Any way we had 3 shows that night and wanted to knock out that show first cause it was in Jersey, so we got there, got on and bounced, did a regular show kept it moving, we didn't even get dressed. So the next day we were at Caz house practicing and this kid that was a roadie let us listen to the tape and we was like "this don't make no sense" so we called our manager and asked him when was the next time we were playing with the Force M.C.s and it just so happen that next week we were playing with them at printing H.S. so we rolled up in there strong like the untouchables on some gangbusters. Went dead up in their dressing room, surrounded them and asked them why they did that foul move. They broke down and gave some lame excuse. So we took what they was getting paid that night (with out guns) and told them that at the next Harlem world party they are to apologize to us in front of capacity crowd and let the crowd no what they did. I don't know if there's a tape of that night but the next M.C. contest after that we stood in front of the stage when the Force got on, wished them luck and A.D. threw a rabbit's foot in Mercury's (R.I.P.) face and when we got on last at that particular M.C. contest we broke out with two new dance steps. Two smoking new routines and before we got off we showed them the money the contest was paying cause the promoter knew we was going to win and paid us right before we got on stage. Then Caz threw $100.00 in singles in the crowd, which caused pandemonium and we left! And our relationship with them after that was "you bring it to us again we will end your career"! To read the whole interview between me and J.D.L. go to (The Foundation.com) site.

81 - Fantastic 5, Touch of class disco 1980 T. Connection (note: this is mostly Touch of class disco party but only Apollo one and Terry Tee were able to perform.) 60min.

82 - Brothers 4, Pernelleo, pernelleo's little brother, Bam boo crew, Master don and the def committee, Mafia family, Fearless four, Mr. Bond, D.J. Mr. Freeze, Elmo, Dollar Bill. 1980 Terrace ballroom (note: this is a contest and one of the judges is L.A. Sunshine. I am not happy with this tape cause I cannot tell if this tape sounds scratchy or gravely cause of D.J. equipment or cause of the systems that were recording this after the show. I would give the trophy to Master don and the crew.) 60min.

83 - Zulu Kings: Grand Master Caz, Mellie Mel, Busy Bee, Bronx style Bob. Also Ice Tee, Donald Dee, Lil Steve and female m.c. Star lite. 1986 at Prospect theater. (note: The Zulu Kings do there thing, especially when they do there routine about marijuana laced with crack, which are called woolers. They use the record called rumors by I believe the group timex social club. The show is pretty good. One thing that has not change they are insulting the hell out of hecklers. Ice Tee makes reference to the infamous Larry Davis being caught by the cops the night before and so Ice Tee tells the crowd he had his bail and the crowd loved it. Also there is a third of a show from the zodiac club on there, pretty much the same thing.) 90min.

84 - Zulu 16th Anniversary-Lord Finesse, Jungle Brothers, B.D.P. KRS1, Dougie Fresh and Jazzy Jay cutting for him. 1990 at Bronx river. (note: KRS1 and Doug put on a hell of a show, Finesse and jungle put on a good show also.) 90min.

85 - Kid Capri, Star Child , Busy Bee, Cowboy. 1988 at the Roof Top. (note: Cowboy in the house for one side doing his thing. a very interestingly funny tape.) 90min.

86 - Brucie Bee, Busy Bee. 1988 at the Roof Top. (note: Busy Bee is a very funny brother here and the party is rockin.) 90min.

87 - Kid Capri. 1988 at the Roof Top. 90min.

88 - Love Bug Starsky. 1992 at the Roof Top. 90min. (note there are thousands of these tapes. I remember it was 86 or 87 my man Big Bub said this brother Kid Capri of the Roof Top uptown 155st was selling tapes of the party's he was D.J.ing, for $10 and right away all the fellas were jumping on it and the rest is history. Cause to me that's were all these mix tapes of today started from, Kid Capri and Brucie Bee as well as Kool Kyle the Star Child. These tapes were the thing back then. Although Capri was banging I liked Brucie Bee better I guest cause he had the chill voice with the lil echo. Yo the best thing I can tell you, if you are interested in more of these type of tapes, Check my man Rock of "Rock and Will" his store is at 23west 125th st. in back of the jewelry counter. between Lenox and 5th or call him at 1-212-534-2056.

89 - Grand Master Caz, K.G., Donald Dee, Ikey Cee and the Force m.c.s with Jazzy Jay cutting for them. 1983 at Bronx river. (note: Caz and K.G. cut off too soon, and Jazzy Jay is cutting real good for the Force m.c.s, especially when he cuts "catch the beat". Ikey Cee is also D.J.ing on this tape.) 90min.

LETS GO BACK FOR A MINUTE - I am going to speak about the Fantastic 5 for a moment. Right after I heard the Fantastic 5 battle with the Cold Crush, I felt that they were very good and in my honest opinion they won the battle, over all the Cold Crush 4 is a better a much better crew but on this night Fantastic won and the reason is they had a totally new show of routines. When Kevie Kev asked Dotta Rock if he was ready to win the G and Dot said the gusto is going home with me. You knew something was about to happen. Cause first the lyrics of the intro was slammin but you hear chicks screamin and people yellin, then they have mic problems, but go back in to there routine saying "like a four leaf clover when the partys over the Cold Crush will be starving Marvin". The routine and rhymes were real tight. Head hunters was like one of my favorite records so when that came on they just killed it. Then Theodore came on later and killed it with hand cuffs and Kevie Kev said "We handled the 4 and Theodore handled them all". I found this to be a very interesting moment in hip hop so I had to get some real good inside information, so I had to see my man the rhymethologist J.D.L. My question to him was "What tipped off the BATTLE and what was the buzz (feeling) in the Bx. in the days leading up to the battle"? Well Busy Bee amped that up. We all was in the ecstasy garage us, them, and Busy waiting to get paid after the show taking flicks. Busy is under the influence talking garbage. I don't know maybe Busy knew we kind of had an edge on Fantastic. Any way Busy said to us "yeah Cold Crush rocked it tonight but I Know who yall can't mess with". So we said who? He said my man Theodore and his fantastic 5 emcee's. So things got mad quiet. Couple spectators going "ooh, ooh" So Caz said the hell with that can't nobody mess with us. So we started beefin right then and there. Mean Gene was like "yall want me to cut the music back on". We was like what ever. So we bounced but it was bound to have happed anyway. So for a couple weeks we would go to their shows post up in their spot, be right up front when they get on intimidating them. Then they would come to ours and do the same thing. Then they would come to Caz crib while we were practicing and we come out side beefin with them. A promoter name Ray chandler found out about this and capitalized on it. That battle changed our lives even though we got robbed that night and got hanker chiefs thrown in our faces by them. That battle took us to a level of showmanship that after that show WE NEVER LOSS NOTHING AGAIN!!!!! I mean our professionalism had rocketed. Every m.c. contest they gave we won (about 10 of them) we got crazy awards for our stage shows. Best m.c. group and everything. Fantastic on the other hand went down and we made them feel it every time we played with them we tore them out the frame dissing them on rhymes and all. To read the rest of the J.D.L. interview go to The Foundation.com and to hear the battle check tape number 14.

90 - Kid Vicious, Donald Dee, Soulsonic Force, Afrika Islam, D.J. Superman. 1979 at the Renaissance and Bx. River. (note: it starts to Mardi gras and they are using the echo chamber. Master Ice does a rhyme about "chuck a luck, black jack, five card charlie and cee low.) 90min.

91 - Mr. Hyde, Mr. Bond, Star Child, D.J. Ronnie Green, D.J. Artie Art. 1977 or 78 at the Foster center. (Note: D.J. Artie Art is doing some great D.J.ing as well as Ronnie Green. I am not sure that's the same Kool Kyle the Star Child, if it is he might not have reached puberty yet. He does rhymes pertaining to cartoon characters. Other then that they are playing some beautiful records such as Toys in the attic, Groove to get down, dance to drummers beat and others and they are using an echo chamber.)

92 - Harlem world crew- Son of Sam, Charlie Rock, D.J. Randy, D.J Tastic, 1982 outside Jam in the area of The Valley and Section 5 of the Bx. (note: First the Harlem World crew come on and they do there thing, I like there style I hope to get more tapes of them. The Mean Machine (Butch Kid, Julio, Slick Rick and Jimmy Mac) come on last and they get booed terribly and told collectively by the crowd to go home even after Jimmy Mac does a rendition of Michael Jackson's song. In between these two groups is a contest between such groups as the Ultimate 4, Famous M.C.s, Casanova 4 and the Hypnotizing 5. The Famous M.C.s won. Also Rasta Kid got on the mic for a minute.)

93 - Cold Crush 4- Record release party 1983 Danceteria (Note: The Cold Crush release there record "The Heartbreakers". In this show L.A. Starts the Four off the record by Prince "Lets go crazy" and they start to rock there records "weekend", "Punk rock rap" which J.D.L. rocks, "the Heartbreakers" and "Fresh, Fly, Wild and Bold and do some of there routines. The whole show is not recorded but at least 45 minutes is in. I fill it up with a show with J.D.L., K.G. and A.D. at another location.) 60min.

94 - Tito and Paso of the Fearless 4, House party no date (Note: This is a house joint and the D.J. is Grand Master C.O.P. They start rocking to the actual record they used to "Rocking It" They do a routine to the record "Dog a donut". D.J. Charlie Rock comes on for a minute. Tito does a rhyme getting stuck up and Paso does one about sexing his teacher they rhyme together on meeting the president Jimmy Carter and rocking at the white house.) Side B Devastating 3 D.J. Barry Bee at Barry's mother house July 5th 1983 (note: This is supposedly there last time rocking together, Kid West is going off to college. Doug Fresh comes on the very beginning for like an intro then the 3 do a routine from earth wind and fire and others and free style.) 90min.

95 - Whiz Kid, Ramsey Rams, D.J. Elroy, m.c. Spanky, Lil Dave at the T-Connection 1981 (note: This is a Kool Herc production. Whiz Kid fresh coming off winning a D.J. battle a week earlier, passes on to another D.J. who thinks he can do better, and displays that he has talent. Kool Herc speaks for a minute but briefly. Also announce a month from that day Whiz Kid will have a record release.) 60min.

96 - Flash, Furious 5, Jazzy J, Bambaataa at the T- Connection not sure of date. (note: This maybe two different party's but it opens with jazzy j, and Bambaataa and they rock the Flash on the beat box plate. Next Flash and them come on and they are very involve and rock the record "walk like sex", hut and others and flash slices in that Flash Gordon piece. Not a full side only about 20minutes.) side B- Jazzy 5 in New Jersey 1981 (note: Start off doing a routine off of Jackson 5 melody "never can say goodbye". Mr. Freeze does a rhyme about "the game of life" and they rock "Jazzy Sensation".) 60min.

97 - D.J. Grand Master Flowers- outside jam Brooklyn 1979 (Note: This is the legendary D.J. Flowers and you can definitely hear why. Although it is all disco music you can tell why he is categorized with the other legends. His m.c., well I don't know. His name is Barren. Flowers runs into some tech problems as well he uses sound effects.) 120min.

98 - D.J. Grand Master Flowers- St. Marks Park Brooklyn 1979 (Note: Flowers has a couple MCs Greg Cee, Derrick Bee, MC Lee Wild Mike E and John V and D.J. Blue. Its mostly disco but he adds in a few breaks such as Super sperm and they rock the echo.) 120min.

99 - Zulu Nation 6th Anniversary (pt.1) Soulsonic Force, Jazzy Jay T-Connection 1981 (Note: Soul sonic get busy and it is nice and clear. Check tape 30 for the 2nd part.) 60min.

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101 - Cold Crush 4, Salt and Pepper M.C.s - South Bronx High School 1980 (Note: Whipper Whip and Dotta- Rock are rocking right with the Cold Crush passing the mic back and forth, and they are rocking the echo chamber real thick. K.G. does a rhyme about different soda's, Dot does one about fly girls off the record Toys in the attic. This is a prom or graduation party for the South Bronx High School.) 60min.

102 - Funky4+1more- T- Connection 1980 (Note- The Funky do a routine accapella off of the melody "I know I am in love" by Chi Chi and Pepe. They do the record "That's the joint" for the first time. Rodney Cee calls Breakout "break a ball".)

103 - Jazzy 5 T-Connection 1980 (Note- I am doing a big check on this crew, cause this is not the Jazzy 5 that did " Jazzy Sensation" with Jazzy J and Mr. Freeze and the crew. This crew consist of Debbie Dee, Jazzy Ace, Busy E, Sinister Rock and Darrell Dee and the D.J.s are Master Plan Randy Ran and Patty Duke. Also it is Dot-A-Rocks birthday and Wiz Kid is also cutting.) 60min

104 - Zulu Nation- Red Alert, Master Dee, Master Bee, Jazzy Jay, Globe and Pow wow. Brentwood Long Island (Note-Master Bee does a rhyme about shooting dice and another about giving directions to girl on how to get to the T-Connection. Master Dee does a rhyme about getting busy with a girl and another about a fool and hard times.) 90min.

105 - Force M.C.s from south side of Queens and the members are Cool Dee, Jazzy Gee, Sha-heam, Pookie, Darrell Dee, Disco Gee and bust these names Rahiem, Starsky and there DJs name is Busy Bee. Somebody give me some history on this crew. Other performers were Keith Keith of the Herculoids, Easy Gee and Jazzy Jay T-Connection (Note: It is Kool Herc and Bam's birthday)

106 - Zulu Nation- Cosmic Force, Pow Wow, Globe, Mr. Bigg Jazzy J, Hutch Hutch, Donald Dee. 1979, 80 (Note: this is 3 different party's. 1st. Audubon Pow Wow rocks a rhyme about a bandit from the western days stealing and hiding money and coming back 10 years later, after spending his money on women and a good time he later on goes to the desert and commits suicide. And the Cosmic force kill it with there routine. 2nd party in Long Island Hutch Hutch does a rhyme about the incredible Hulk having funky cloths and dingy hair. Pow Wow does a rhyme about buffalo bill. 3rd party Jay is known as Lil Jazzy Jay or this is somebody who is Jays understudy, Pow Wow does a rhyme about Lisa Lee calling him up and telling him to come over and rock. Donald Dee does a rhyme about meeting a girl name Tiny, Hutch Hutch does a rhyme about his daughter. They are using the echo chamber.) 90min.

107 - Zulu Nation- Sundance, Jazzy Jay, Hutch Hutch, Pow Wow. 1979 123 Park (Note: Sundance does a rhyme about crooked things, teasing a girl in the bed before banging her and another about the channels on T.V. Hutch Hutch does a rhyme about meeting a girl on the train and another about bring two girls around.) 60min.

108 - Rock steady, Kevie Kev, Whipper Whip, D.J. Theodore Danceteria 1982 (Note: This is a party that the Rock steady dancers are doing there thing, even got a brother with one leg from New Jersey doing his thing. Also this is during the time Kevie Kev is about to start rockin with Flash and the Furious 5 so you hear him saying some of there rhymes.) 60min.

109 - Caz, Busy Bee, Furious 5, Zulu Nation - 1981 Audubon and T- Connection (Note: Mellie Mel on the echo, they play there album Freedom for the first time but they are having mic problems so they turn the record over. Pow Wow does a rhyme about how he got life in jail, Master Bee does a rhyme about dice, Master Ice does one about how he got to Rikers Island, Lisa Lee does one about Jazzy Jay rockin the music when she got off the train also does the "chittie chittie bang bang" rhyme. Busy Bee is rockin with the record "it's the joint" and him and Caz are clowning on the mic about who is in the party. Then they go back and forth with there rhymes. Mandip lite and Herc are at the party.

110 - Tito and O.G. Rock 1982 (Note: This sounds like a house tape and O.C. is the D.J. records like head hunters catch the beat genius of love and dog the donut among others are being played. Tito announces that "its magic will be out shortly and they will be doing it off dog the donut" O.G. does a rhyme about Kennedy high school and a rhyme about the King Queen and jack among others> Tito does rhymes by D.L.B. and Moe Dee as well as how they got together and a rhyme about D.L.B.) 60min.

111 - Fantastic 5, Rockin Rob and the M.C. Connection Crew 1980 T-Connection (Note: There is an award ceremony. Busy Bee and Lil Spank of the Inner City crew, give an award for Flash as the best D.J. and the Furious 5 as the Best group and most promising. Funky 4 got 2nd place. Apache, Barry Bee, Lil Rich, Lil Bit and Crazy ? make up the M.C. Connection. Kevie Kev sings along with the records of "Just a touch of Love" and "Rock with you" and Theodore once again shows why he was so great at that time by cutting "Rock with you" so well. And Fantastic Start there Hey Fellas routine.) 60min.

112 - Zulu Nation - 1980 (Note: This is a true Zulu Nation throw down. This is 2 party's and both of them kill it. 1st party is at the T-Connection Jazzy J is the DJ, Smitty Dee is on the echo, Kid Vicious, Tricky Tee, Malibu, Pow Wow and Nae Nae are the MCs Malibu uses the same melody but changes some of the words to one of Caz's rhymes, which Caz also borrowed a couple verses from Johnny Cash, that's right the country singer. It's Troy Troy's birthday. 2nd party Bambaataa is the DJ and this is were he plays a lot of his fine collection, Dance to the drummers, you are what you are, keep your distance, groove to get down, "fuck you" by Millie Jackson, love and affection and Jamaican or African song were the singers lyrics are about the TV mini series "Roots". Also a Latin jam were the singer is saying specific people are "a wanted man". And it was Rodney Cee's birthday.) 90min.

113 - Grand Master Flash and the Furious 5 1980 Lace's Roller Rink, Roosevelt Long Island (Note: Only one mic is working so the mic is being passed around amongst the Furious 5. Kurtis Blow's record "that's the breaks" must of just come out cause they played it a few times. Flash is using the Infinity machine's equipment.


Contact: Troy L. Smith. Troy is a true skool head, who grew up in the Grant projects in Harlem. He is still actively collecting vintage hip hop tapes and does trades, so if you got some tapes boxed up in the closet bust them out and share the culture.